Inulin is the ‘active ingredient” in all the cholesterol-lowering-good-gut-germ-growing-probiotics in the plant kingdom. Black beans, canned pumpkin, sweet potato, etc.
It turns out, to maintain a decent quality poop for most indoor dogs, “FOS” is great.
Gluten free and powerfully bio active in the gut, FOS slows an irritable bowel, and activates a stale one.
Question: Is FOS better than ‘canned pumpkin’?
Answer: Not really better than canned pumpkin, but FOS powder is less bulky and it’s easier. Also more economical.
Question: What is FOS Made of?
Answer: When FOS appeared on the market it was made with Chicory Root. It’s still made with Chicory Root but quite often, it also comes from “Jerusalem Artichoke” and tbh you couldn’t tell the difference because it’s both a white powder that looks like coffee creamer and has a very faint, slightly sweet taste.
Question: How do you use FOS in canine feeds?
Answer: I use 1 tsp per 15 pounds of dog sprinkled in each feeding. IF the dog gets really gassy, or somehow (improbable) ends up with a loose(ish) stool, you’re giving too much. If the dog isn’t gassy at all and the stools are “better than ever” then you’re doing it right.
Dogs and cats should never have chicken in their butt.
Trying to get your attention with that headline.
How does chicken end up in the butts of dogs and cats? (Alternative title: “Inflammatory bowel disease due to whole protein maldigestion in colon” much less provocative.)
The gastrointestinal tract could be broken into three segments. The teeth and stomach handle the initial preparation of food for digestion, small intestine mashes everything together with digestive enzymes and absorbs all of the vital nutrients, and then the large intestine / colon picks up the water that’s left over in the gooey waste that’s left behind.
Sometimes the process is incomplete, as often happens with dogs and cats as they get older. Their digestive system becomes flimsy because they don’t chew their food as well, or can’t chew their food as well and their stomach acid production tends to decline.
The result of this, is the arrival of whole proteins in that last segment of the G.I. tract
Pieces of whole pieces of chicken as far as the body concerned, but especially as far as the germs are concerned.
The body sees these proteins as foreign invaders (having never seen them in the previous 10 years of the dogs life), and they very definitely recognize them as “not native protein“ so there is an immune response to these proteins and worse, whole proteins that enter the colon simply rot.
They are not digested any further there, so you can see how “having chicken in your butt” so to speak, would create problems. Rotting chicken in a large bowel that is absorbent, not digestive.
There are two ways to fix this, one is to give proteins that are already fully broken down and those are called hydrolyzed proteins and the second method is to give supplemental digestive enzymes including amylase, lipase, and protease.
Supplemental digestive enzymes are inexpensive, they are mixed with food that has had broth or water added to it to get the enzymes going, ideally you would let the food sit for an hour to pre-digest and then you would give it to the dog or cat. What happens at that point is that the dog no longer experiences whole protein in the colon. The inflammation immune response and bacterial overgrowth ceases to occur in the bowels, and things proceed more normally.
We’ve almost forever known that our gut contains germs.
We learned a little more recently that many of the germs in our gut a “good” and necessary.
In the recent past, science learned that we can implant / transplant beneficial germs to the gut.
Very recently, we realized that if we put “good germs” in the gut while we kill other germs with antibiotics, that the gut remains “pretty healthy” in spite of the antibiotics. Yeasts are less likely to overgrow and the bad germs left in the gut don’t get “the upper hand”.
So until lately, science has been putting milk-based germs (lots of lactobacillus) species into the guts to pretty good effect. They’re easy to get, to grow and to give. But they’re by no means “native” germs. They’re still “outsiders” and just holding a place.
VERY very recently, science has started growing colonic germs (poop germs) commercially in the lab and those are actual REPLACEMENTS that benefit the gut. Since the germs are grown in petri dishes, it’s not like anyone’s being exposed to poop anymore than someone giving lactobacillus are being exposed to milk.
And so the probiotics that are the best have germs (in addition to the standard-bearer Lacto’s) germs that are ‘native’ or nearly-so, to the animal’s own gastrointestinal tract. Germs like:
L. Acidophilus, E. Faecium, L. Rhamnosus, L. Plantarum, B. Bifidum, B. Longum, B. Breve, L. Casei, B. Coagulans, B. Lactis, S. Thermophilus, L. Fermentum
When you see a germ with “faecium” in the name, go ahead and get grossed out, because that’s a poop germ, but it’s also a HERO among germs because it literally belongs in there.
So while some companies are using the trusty old Lacto-team, which is GOOD, more progressive companies are adding actual “proper poop” species. Species that literally belong there.
What else is in a good probiotic?
FOS. Fructo-Oligo-Saccharides. This is “inulin” (not insulin) – – a soluble fiber from a lot of sources. Chicory was at one time the most common source but Jerusalem Artichoke is coming on. Inulin is literally “all that’s good” about soluble fiber. When you eat a pumpkin, sweet potato or black bean, you get some “inulin” soluble fiber. When you eat chicory root, or jerusalem artichoke, ALL you’re getting is “inulin” so you can see that FOS Powdered Chicory Root is a the best, purest source for inulin. Better than pumpkin or anything else.
But pumpkin is tasty. Dogs like it. So, we go with that.
What are Probiotic s made with, besides germs?
A great “vehicle” or “powder” to mix your probiotics in is FOS, or inulin powder and that’s often from Chicory or similar as listed above.
Other probiotics are mixed in oat powder. I say “Meh, okay. Overpriced oat meal with some germs in it.”
And some are based on Whey. Which is good. I would be HAPPIER seeing FOS/inulin as the base vehicle / powder, but whey has distinct palatability advantages.
So when you go over to Amazon.com you want to see:
Ingredients only from America. (Not Italy, not China.)
Based on Whey or FOS/inulin. (Not wheat, oats or any other grain)
That contains E. faecium and S. thermophilus at least.
Which is the best one? (Best germs but Whey based, more tasty)
Which is the SECOND best one? (Most of the same germs but FOS based)
Runner Up With a Twist: I’m including this because this company has done a little more research and decided: “You know what? Screw the milk germs, all a dog’s actually gonna benefit from are native species anyway, so give ’em LOTS of E faecium!” and so they did. Then they chocked it full of Vitamin C and Taurine, zinc and other goodies. They’re one of VERY few manufacturers who “put it in writing” that their germs are LIVE. Sadly, there’s no inulin, or soluble fiber, or whey in it, but it’s a good one:
Weight loss in dogs by feeding Atkins style is extraordinary, nothing short of exciting, when dogs are not given carbohydrates for a while their appetite planes down as they are no longer on the blood sugar roller coaster. Weight peels off of them and it’s just fat weight so it is very healthy.
My two-year-old dog Ajax just got too ripped. I didn’t like it when his ribs appeared and his flanks would ripple so I put him on the average American carbohydrate-based diet and his ribs have disappeared now now I limit the quantity so he does not get fat which is very easy on carbohydrate-based diet‘s. The following recording discusses Atkins feeding and will illuminate how to do that and diets to satisfy that goal.
What Do You Recommend for Dogs on Grain Free, DCM-List feeds?
My priorities IN ORDER:
Rice instead of peas / lentils
My reason for changing foods was that Ajax was eating ultra low carb and that had cut him down to super-lean. Like, muscular with veins showing. As low-carb / raw often does. But that ‘ribby’ look, (despite his super thick muscle mass), just didn’t please my eye so I decided to go with carb based nutrition again. At least for a while.
I actually took Ajax off that (Ultra low carb) for a minute.
He was FRICKING bulky with the muscle, (he’s 3 years old) so I wasn’t worried about it, but his ribs were showing.
That is SO healthy.
*But* ….he looked like I was starving him (to the neighbors eyes) and frankly, he isn’t as much fun to pet because, I mean, he was SKINNY – – bordering on ‘creepily’ skinny (new word you’re welcome)
So I put him on Chicken Soup For The Soul dog food and he’s smoothing out FAST.
It’s DISTURBING how fast carbs in the diet put the weight back on. It’s not belly fat. Just overall sleekness.
Sadly, you can’t feed ‘atkins’ AND give carbs. That’s a metabolic “limbo” and they pack on UNHEALTHY pounds.
So I got on Amazon to find a diet that could be delivered.
(I don’t trade with Chewy these days, until Amazon buys them out and boots their “Fisher-Price pharmacy”.)
And I looked for something without corn or soy. Grains were okay, and Rice, preferred.
I wanted something not-very-expensive. But I don’t mind paying SOMETHING for dog food. I’m not going to settle for the basic Purinas*, or the Pedigree foods.
*Many of Purina’s diets are excellent nutrition. But the price matches that. I needed a better “deal”.
I was doing the math on a decent-sized bag. And I found MANY diets that were like, 28 pound bags for $35 but when I dug down into the ingredients, most of them were poor.
The food acknowledges the benefits of Omega FA’s and includes those deliberately and at additional expense. The diet ALSO capitalizes on the health benefits of Zinc and Selenium which helps skin a VERY great deal.
The diet also has additional ‘soluble fiber’ in the form of chicory root but the amount is doubtfully “enough”. There are blueberry antioxidants which is also “near and dear” to my heart. But again, there’s more salt in the diet than Blueberries so it’s not “rich in antioxidants” but at least they’re added – – in a diet with a great price point. Further down the list, are some probiotics of note in the ‘fermentation products’ which only speaks to the percolation of the cultures to produce them, after which they are dried (lyophilized) which kills a lot of those beneficials but many also survive.
Ingredients are IMPRESSIVE with animal protein over-represented in the top three ingredients:
I think so. More than a decade ago they discovered that cats have a requirement for Taurine and cardiomyopathy (among other morbidities) could be the result. In the scheme of things, it was a minuscule problem, but dietary modifications were made across the board. In this case, I believe that a small number of dogs which are fed highly refined grain free diets MAY be missing a core ingredient we have not discovered yet. I believe the problem is being overdiagnosed, and is not yet fully understood. It’s also important to understand: DCM (Dilative cardiomyopathy) occurs in degrees of severity. The degree of DCM suffered by a dog is what determines the fatality of it. There are a lot of dogs walking around with DCM that we wouldn’t even look at, until now.
What do you think about the limited ingredient foods such as kangaroo food for food allergy? Or do you think we should stick to the Rachael Ray food?
ANSWER: That is an excellent question You can feed a food that has brand new proteins the dog has never seen, and of course they will have no food allergy to that. But. Instead of guessing what proteins would be considered “new“ to the dog, there are also what are called “hydrolyzed protein“ diets in which the proteins are broken down from kangaroo into the essential amino acid’s, thereby no longer being chicken, beef, or kangaroo. Just raw, antigen free protein building blocks. It seems to me in cases of food allergy that, that is the best result we are getting. However, food allergy is minor, compared to adverse food reactions, which is usually the body rejecting various insecticides and herbicide’s that are used on the ingredients that go into dog food.
Hydrolyzed Protein Diets For Food Allergy
I don’t know what comes up when you keyword search “hydrolyzed protein diets” on Amazon. But that is the most sure fire way to find a diet that will not trigger an immune response.
That being said, I really do like the Rachael Ray Peak, just six, and nutrish lines. Simply avoid her diets that contain lentils and peas.
There are quite a few ways to supply proteins to a dog. I think that’s an understatement. But in consideration of food allergy, there are three main considerations. That’s novel proteins, limited ingredients, or hydrolyzed proteins. But what’s best? What do you think about the limited ingredient foods such as kangaroo food? Or do you think we should stick to the Rachael Ray food for her? ANSWER: That is an excellent question You can feed a food that has brand new proteins the dog has never seen, and of course they will have no allergies to that. But. Instead of guessing what proteins would be considered “new“ to the dog, there are also what are called “hydrolyzed protein“ diets in which the proteins are broken down from kangaroo Into the essential amino acid’s, thereby no longer being chicken, beef, or kangaroo. Just raw, antigen free protein building blocks. It seems to me in cases of food allergy that, that is the best result we are getting. However, food allergy is minor, compared to adverse food reactions, which is usually the body rejecting various insecticides and herbicide’s that are used on the ingredients that go into dog food. I don’t know what comes up when you keyword search “hydrolyzed protein diets” on Amazon. But that is the most sure fire way to find a diet that will not trigger an immune response. That being said, I really do like the Rachael Ray Peak, just six, and nutrish lines. Simply avoid her diets that contain lentils and peas.
This is the proper vegetable mix. I don’t care if the peppers are in there – they don’t matter. What matters is that the vegetables are NOT STARCHY. Very low in carbohydrates. Excellent! Market Pantry is at Target Doc Johnson
On my website I have quite a few different ways to cook for your dog but I want you to know The easiest home cooking for dogs. Alternative for Raw diets of six or seven kinds, some diets that are rich in carbohydrates from 10 years ago, to some diets that are more conservative on carbohydrates trending now.
Somewhere in between feeding raw meat with enzymes and other special ingredients, all the way across the board to “just plain chicken and rice”, here is a nice “middle of the road“ diet that is suitable for most if not all dogs.
It brings to bear a conservative carbohydrate content, and it is extremely low in fat. If you look at each of the ingredients, they’re absolutely essential to the dogs nutrition and prevailing health.
Here are the ingredients:
Eggs prepared in any fashion although boiling a bunch of eggs on the weekend to have enough for the week is certainly efficient, not to mention the fact that you can buy boiled eggs by the dozen already shelled in the package.
Low carbohydrate, “stirfry“ vegetables. I found these at Target in steamer packs, they contain cauliflower, broccoli, snow peas, and other non-starchy vegetables. You just throw that in the microwave and steam it, chop it up a little and then mix it with the chopped eggs and you’re ready to go.
One of the things that would be missing in a diet based on non-starchy vegetables and eggs would be soluble fiber, so you need to add pumpkinto the diet. Sweet potato is almostas good. Adding a powdered soluble fiber is also effective and may be easier? That would be fructo-oligosaccharides from Amazon.com made from chicory root or Jerusalem artichoke.
The amount of pumpkin that you would add would be 1 tablespoon per 10 pounds in each feeding. After you had been feeding for a while you would kind of get the idea of what it looked like when it was made correctly and you would not have to measure painstakingly so much.
A diet that is based on eggs, low starch vegetables and a little bit of soluble fiber from pumpkin, is lacking in calcium and perhaps even some antioxidants. This is added by putting some blueberry yogurt of high-quality into the diet. Something like a teaspoon for 10 pounds would be appropriate, stir that in to the meal and you’re good
When I was researching raw diets, I noticed that some people were giving straight up, raw egg shell and it turns out that digestibility is actually OK, and this is not a bad way to get calcium into a dog. So, if you are using eggs in the diet and you feel like it, you could actually use a raw egg shell and all.
For most dogs over 20 pounds a half an egg shell is more than enough calcium for the day. Obviously that would be down tuned for a Chihuahua at 3 pounds LOL
Are eggs a complete protein? To be honest I couldn’t tell you, except that eggs are extremely “kidney friendly“ and used in diets that are intended to spare kidney function in older animals. The other proteins of a similar type (it’s also an albumin) comes from whey or milk protein. For that reason I suggest that if you want to supplement protein, instead of adding a bulky protein like chicken, consider perhaps a spoonful of basic whey protein powder. If you are using eggs, that should not be necessary but, if you feel like it, go ahead.
In the above diet we have considered protein, fat, fiber, carotenoids, calcium, even some advantages as far as antioxidants but we need to take it one step further: Iron and vitamins. Just in case were missing something, we should add a multivitamin to the diet and I have always been partial to Flintstones complete because it contains iron which is lacking in all of the above ingredients;from eggs to vegetables to yogurt.
So a Flintstones Complete, multivitamin dosed at a rate of 1/2 tablet for 30 pounds and under, and for 30 pounds and over we get a whole tablet per day. 60 to 70 pounds and over with yet a tablet and a half or more. Vitamins are quite safe for dogs, just make sure that the vitamin is not made with xylitol please check the label before administering it, because formulation sometimes change.
To recap, we are talking about a home-cooked diet that is simple, and nutritionally complete that is based on boiled eggs, starch free low carbohydrate mixed vegetables from a steamer, some blueberry yogurt, and pumpkin as well as A multivitamin for iron and to correct any small deficiencies.
Optional added items could include a whey-based protein powder.
Regarding the consistency of the diet, there are some dogs that will carefully pick out the egg and leave the vegetables, if that’s the case you are going to have to dice everything up and mix it together in such a style that dogs cannot pick out the vegetables,
Some dogs wolf it down en masse, in which case you are lucky.
How much to feed?
The vegetables are unlimited and you know how to dose the pumpkin and yogurt.